tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.comments2018-07-16T12:50:17.790+10:00Big Adventure in TraditionGlaucon Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-3402588598722964332017-09-24T18:00:33.332+10:002017-09-24T18:00:33.332+10:00All this talk about power ,consent ,contracts and ...All this talk about power ,consent ,contracts and government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-41747209921527478912017-01-26T04:01:00.528+10:002017-01-26T04:01:00.528+10:00PS. Perhaps a grammar lesson is in order in conjun...PS. Perhaps a grammar lesson is in order in conjunction with the charity you might be needing. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-60097942338174339242017-01-26T03:58:17.505+10:002017-01-26T03:58:17.505+10:00Well that's what the Pharisees said about the ...Well that's what the Pharisees said about the Lord Jesus, so I'll take your insult as a welcome persecution for my poor soul. God bless you. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-23791738122406462132017-01-26T01:54:31.569+10:002017-01-26T01:54:31.569+10:00You are work of the devilYou are work of the devilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-85113838147427310222016-09-15T12:41:51.542+10:002016-09-15T12:41:51.542+10:00Timothy,
There is no judgment here, so there is n...Timothy, <br />There is no judgment here, so there is no need to cite the Sermon. Dissimulation is a tactic used to draw out one's interlocutor, and I have no problem with it (in that context) as a way of getting to the truth, not in winning a debate. It's only disappointment that you might be inclined to do so with me. <br /><br />But as you will. Since comments are far too small to give adequate treatment, I'll do a short post by tomorrow morning (tonight if time allows after home duties). Peace. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-84005046338013295742016-09-15T12:37:01.462+10:002016-09-15T12:37:01.462+10:00Dear Glaucon,
If I disappear into the night, it...Dear Glaucon,<br /> If I disappear into the night, it is because my follow-up comments were reviewed and deemed unacceptable by the blog administrator. I am not one to disappear, but like the Scarlet Pimpernel, will appear now here, now there. <br /><br />Furthermore, if you judge me (cf. Mt. 7, 1 and following) as a dissimulator, then judge me, with St. John Chrysostom of the Tradition, with mercy, compassion and forgiveness, for this is the measure by which you, I presume, wish to be judged.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16437625683522270930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-52680125046584030982016-09-15T12:12:01.694+10:002016-09-15T12:12:01.694+10:00Why, what a delightful request, although I know pe...Why, what a delightful request, although I know perfectly well this request--coming from you in particular--is not one of a gadfly but rather of one who likes to be Socratic and rattle his interlocutor on the off-chance he hasn't done his homework, yet who then disappears into the night once the case is made. Hence, the would-be dissimulation, which is a little disappointing since I know perfectly well that you know what I mean. <br /><br />Even so, I'll be happy to oblige when I get home from work and settle in. Have a fine day.Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-66735366845992456592016-09-15T12:01:56.768+10:002016-09-15T12:01:56.768+10:00Dear Glaucon,
To follow you in detail, I would...Dear Glaucon,<br /><br /> To follow you in detail, I would like very much for you to provide an example from a Vatican II document which "explains" in "modern language" using "ambiguity of phrase, equivocal terminology and a fluid vocabulary that allows for all kinds of interpretation." Such a citation would help a lot. Thank you in anticipation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16437625683522270930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-56514822024668941072016-09-15T03:45:26.051+10:002016-09-15T03:45:26.051+10:00That would seem to be the case, but why do both th...That would seem to be the case, but why do both the "traditionalist" Catholics and "progressive," modernist Catholics both claim Vatican II was a radical break? <br /><br />Benedict XVI worked hard on the problem while at the CDF and proposed that there's an inner continuity. With all respect, I don't see it as continuous, but not because of an actual "change" in doctrine.<br /><br />I don't see doctrine having changed, but rather "explained" in "modern language" (as though we didn't understand before). That involved ambiguity of phrase, equivocal terminology and a fluid vocabulary that allows for all kinds of interpretation. By doing this, they opened all kinds of doors that culminates in the "making" of a new Mass, rather than making small adjustments, as has been done in the past. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-74859000316321753942016-09-15T00:16:15.575+10:002016-09-15T00:16:15.575+10:00Either Vatican II changed doctrine or it did not. ...Either Vatican II changed doctrine or it did not. If it did, it is not a valid council and should be ignored. If it did not, there should be no problem in adhering to the doctrine of the Church as presented before Vatican II.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-26127595662952022402016-09-14T22:25:29.721+10:002016-09-14T22:25:29.721+10:00Correction: I misspoke. When I said above " t...Correction: I misspoke. When I said above " to condemn the Council would be to condemn the driver's license exam for someone's bad driving," that should read:<br /><br />"to condemn the Council would be to condemn the requirement for a driver's license exam for someone's bad driving."<br /><br />It the exam is vague, off-point, and taught by someone not qualified, that would certainly explain bad driving. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-85067141259937292562016-09-14T22:22:06.591+10:002016-09-14T22:22:06.591+10:00Thank you for your comment. I am not part of the S...Thank you for your comment. I am not part of the SSPX or any other schismatic group, and I certainly don't condemn Vatican II. On the contrary: the problem with V2 is the profoundly vague language used in the documents--language which gave bishops all kinds of room to demonstrate this betrayal that was already simmering underneath. A very small example: the minute the Novus Ordo went into effect, quite literally overnight priests stopped saying Mass ad orientam. Just because. That wasn't part of any reform. And bishops led the way. <br /><br />No sir, to condemn the Council would be to condemn the driver's license exam for someone's bad driving. Rather, I'm trying to see the problem for what it is. <br /><br />To your example: the anaphora, or Eucharistic Prayer, that you refer to is B, particularly before the 3rd Edition of the Missal. I didn't say it was heretical, and it is valid because the words of consecration are there. But there can be no doubt that the language of B is so profoundly different from the Roman Canon as to see very little resemblance, and the key and substance of the changes are the Sacrificial. That use by Kiko exclusively don't prove my point, but it certainly demonstrates it well. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-28506280150060575662016-09-14T17:54:19.303+10:002016-09-14T17:54:19.303+10:00I mostly agree; but you exagerate condemning - eve...I mostly agree; but you exagerate condemning - even if you avoid to tell this - the 2° Vatican Council. Also condemning all of it is an heresy. I hope you dont belong to the extremist bishops who left the comunion with the Catholic church (Lefèvre). <br />We cannot know if history will lead us to a scism. I fear so. It is not the first one. Let us do everything possible to avoid it, until the center of our faith, the sacrifice of Crist Jesus and his resurrection is not toched by the Pope and must bishops.<br />I give one exampel of your exageration: Many of the anaforas recomandeted are ortodox, I mean catholic, not heretical. Heretical is the second one, and this is the reason why Kiko and Carmen introduced it in the NCW as the only one to be proclaimed. The reason: it only slightly in a little word alludes to the sacrifice of Jesus. This is also the reason why Kiko "composed" the music for this Anafora, so that NCW members for all their lives only here the Second Canon, in kikotical version.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147478848473500784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-28665787624832724522016-09-02T13:24:40.940+10:002016-09-02T13:24:40.940+10:00Timothy,
Jesus does save the woman caught in adult...Timothy,<br />Jesus does save the woman caught in adultery. And why does He does this? And why does He love her? And why are we called to love our neighbor likewise? And why does command command this love of neighbor as inseparable from love of Him? Indeed, why does a sinner restored bring greater joy to Heaven than 99 righteous ones?<br /><br />It is because we are created by God out of nothing in a act of pure love. He quite simply loved us into being. <br /><br />We are therefore ontologically good, plain and simple. Therefore, I do say and say again that my neighbor is indeed good, and yet he does not do the good. Thus do we make the distinction between ontological and moral goodness. Man like all other things with being have that intrinsic goodness, and any deficiency, sin, yes evil, is moral and isn’t a reflection of that ontological goodness. <br /><br />This is precisely the problem with the NCW and Kiko’s theology: they conflate the two. This was the problem with Luther as well, as he made clear that he detested metaphysics and removed it in a way that sort of anticipates Kant in trying “make room for faith.” The problem is that without a metaphysic, all that’s left is an ungrounded moral life (which is ultimately Nietzsche in its logically concluded form).<br /><br />This is why I say the NCW and its view are incoherent. It’s a massive theological problem, to be sure, but even basic philosophy can’t take such incoherence. <br /><br />Anyway, thank you for posting on my blog. Pls feel free to post as you see fit, provided it stimulates good conversation and a dialogue that aims to the Truth itself. <br />Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-30963613723332059682016-09-02T12:40:11.730+10:002016-09-02T12:40:11.730+10:00Dear Glaucon,
Thank you, again, for your posting...Dear Glaucon, <br /><br />Thank you, again, for your posting.<br /><br />I quote you: How exactly is that "love your neighbor as yourself?" Love of neighbor that is born from the love of Christ seeks the good of the other and does not keep score of such things. It elevates the other according to his dignity, even if he is those things. As Christians, we are called to love our neighbor because he is good, despite the fact that sometimes he does not do good. <br /><br />If love of Christ elevates us according to our dignity, then we were elevated from a place lower (where our image is tarnished, where we are the old Adam) than the dignity we enjoy as a new creation. We love our neighbor because he is good? I don’t think so. We love our neighbor--though he is a sinner, an old Adam--for at least three reasons. First, God has commanded us to love him. Second, we love him and suffer for him because we have hope for him, hope that he may one day love as God has commanded, which includes giving up his sin. And third, we love because a sinner restored will bring great joy to heaven.<br /><br />Intimacy with Christ places us under the cross where God’s graciousness, mercy and love drip on us in red, and we see Christ’s arms stretched in opposite directions embracing the whole sinful, but lovable world. Such is the mystery and grandeur of Christ’s love. When Jesus saves the woman about to be stoned for adultery, she, though a sinner, is lovable. He loved and saved her, and so should we.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16437625683522270930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-73744041657786970642016-09-02T09:05:46.422+10:002016-09-02T09:05:46.422+10:00Slavery! This word was used by Fr. Michael in his ...Slavery! This word was used by Fr. Michael in his homily. Christ was a "slave" unto the cross! What? Christ a slave! Spoiled "fruit" from the RMS.<br />Then he concluded with the the "banquet" and the Eucharist as the "bread of the Angels". Interesting! They have no body and therefore need no "bread". More KAKA flowing from the mouth of the "Father of Lies". <br />Finally, Fr. Michael thanked the choir and then the seminarians for assisting with the Mass. To what end? To defend the RMS by vomiting the lie that RMS has Lateran certification and approval. The final blessing felt like a "curse". <br /><br />Glaucon your profound ability to express with clarity and with charity the TRUTH about the NCW is a gift of the Holy Spirit. We pray that these poor "souls" who are slaves to "the smoke of Satan" will awake from their slumber and return to the ONE, TRUE, APOSTOLIC FAITH. <br />May all the faithful, who have been awakened by Tim's JW blog and who continue, with their individual "gifts", to defend the Church from the "Gates of Hell", continue to be courageous "soldiers for Christ". St. Athanasius Pray for us! St. Michael the Archangel protect us!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08388836416719754008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-65299415695493839282016-08-28T06:24:01.678+10:002016-08-28T06:24:01.678+10:00I am very glad to hear it. Thank you for commentin...I am very glad to hear it. Thank you for commenting. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-12177102522976262922016-08-28T05:46:32.047+10:002016-08-28T05:46:32.047+10:00All true Brother. I was in the community for 22 ye...All true Brother. I was in the community for 22 years. I was catechist, itinerant, seminarian, head cantor for many years. It was difficult to leave the community. Everything I was doing outside was met with suspicion. I reasoned with them but they would not take it. I was labelled <br />trouble maker. I left after 22 years and the new catechist told me that if I ever leave the community I will lose my faith. Sad to ssay they were wrong. I am in a better place now in my 'walk in fith'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-23119575522011381902016-08-28T04:06:44.612+10:002016-08-28T04:06:44.612+10:00Excellent.Excellent.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-36931269719927661422016-08-24T02:08:59.903+10:002016-08-24T02:08:59.903+10:00Well done Glaucon. Keep hold of the hammer.Well done Glaucon. Keep hold of the hammer.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-4371492877331709862016-08-18T14:51:13.956+10:002016-08-18T14:51:13.956+10:00Great commentary. I especially appreciate where yo...Great commentary. I especially appreciate where you explain the danger of the lop-sided yet well-intentioned bishop.Jose M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08952497464662156978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-6117392073503016382016-08-18T12:50:27.359+10:002016-08-18T12:50:27.359+10:00Excellent essay Glaucon! Keep up the fight!Excellent essay Glaucon! Keep up the fight!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08388836416719754008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1528294268467777561.post-72920598690525660912016-08-18T10:38:24.502+10:002016-08-18T10:38:24.502+10:00So, Glaucon Jr., what is the REAL problem? I know ...So, Glaucon Jr., what is the REAL problem? I know the church needs quite a bit of sanitizing. Will this come a chapter or a book at a time? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com